[plug] Dyketoberfest
2nd Annual Dyketoberfest: Dancing, Drinks, and Girls . . .
Friday, October 13th 8p.m. - close.
325 Braun Ct., A2
2nd Annual Dyketoberfest: Dancing, Drinks, and Girls . . .
My friend at another school had an interview today, not with a small or undistinguished firm. After the formalities were settled, he asked about "LGBT diversity."
from paul...
Friends,
I just wanted to take a second to extend our gratitude to Denise Brogan. Today Denise lead a very informative and engaging discussion about Don't Ask, Don't Tell, which coincided with JAG's on-campus recruiting. As we all know, this is an issue that is very near and dear to all of our hearts, so it was particularly effective for our fellow law students to hear about this policy from one of our own. Denise lead this important discussion with passion and a wonderful sense of humor. We had just over 50 people attend, including many new faces. I've already gotten a lot of positive feedback about Denise's talk. Please join me in thanking Denise for a job well done.
I also want to thank our Political Action & Speakers Committee Chair, Mary. In addition to supplementing Denise's discussion with helpful background reading, Mary had letters to Senators/Representatives ready and waiting to be signed. And people were ready to take action and make their voice heard.
Props should also be extended to our Social Chair, Jordan. Jordan grabbed a handful of the letters, ran to the ACLU meeting, and had them signed there. Between Mary & Jordan, we had over two dozens letters signed by the end of the meeting.
And of course, a special thanks goes to our Secretary, Robert. Robert helped set up today's discussion and bravely cut up burritos for our eating pleasure :).
Thanks to everyone who came and helped out with this event! We look forward to many more important discussions in the future.
~Paul
from a friend at the First United Methodist Church...
From the poster blurb:
David Myers, co-author of What God Has Joined Together: The Christian Case for Gay Marriage, is a social pychologist and John Dirk Werkman Professor of Psychology at Hope College. Author of 15 books, David explores the intersection of faith, spirituality, and various aspects of the human and psychological condition. What God Has Joined Together is an effort to bridge the divide betwee marriage-supporting and gay-supporting people of faith by showing why both sides have important things to say.
Schedule:
Thursday, October 5, 7pm.
First United Methodist Church, 120 s. State St.
Talk & Reception hosted by the Wesley Foundation Campus Ministry
Friday, October 6, 12 noon.
MSA Chambers, 3rd Floor Michigan Union, 530 S. State St.
Brown bag lunch & talk hosted by Office of LGBT Affairs
Friday, October 6, 2pm.
School of Social Work Education Conference Center, 1080 S. University Ave.
Talk & Reception hosted by U-M's Difficult Dialogues Program.
for more information:
www.crlt.umich.edu/DD

from our friends at the office of career services...
"Will this Law Firm Eat my Brain? Or, How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Thrive in a Large Firm"
Tuesday, 10/3/06 at 12:15 p.m. in 220HH.
Keith Wetmore '80 is the Chair of Morrison & Foerster (MoFo), a law firm that ranks sixth in the American Lawyer's A-List of Top 20 Law Firms.
As Chair of a firm of 1,000 lawyers with 19 offices worldwide, Mr. Wetmore takes the lead in setting policy and providing strategic direction to the firm. He previously served as Managing Partner of the firm's San Francisco office, the first openly gay man to head an Am Law 100 firm. He also led the firm's 50-lawyer Finance and Infrastructure practice.
The Film Festival is Back... And Bigger Than Ever!
Outlaws Presents...
from our friend and 1L Rep, Stacy...
Hi everyone,
There's a GLBT mixer this Friday at Aut Bar from 7-9pm for Ivy League, 7 Sisters, and UM alums, and their partners and friends. Here's the link for more info and an RSVP form: http://tigernet.princeton.edu/~ffr-gala/Events2006/060929AA.html
It might also serve as a good kickoff to Outfest, which is this Saturday (the 30th) at 4pm, N. 4th St between Catherine and Kingsley.
http://www.wrap-up.org/index.html
Stacy

Imagine you go to the doctor and you sign in, and they call your name, take your temperature, height, weight, HIV screening, and blood pressure check. "Ok," says the doctor, "what are we seeing you for today?"
[Bernard] Branson of the CDC said some of the inspiration for the new recommendations came from recent studies of routine HIV testing at Stroger Hospital of Cook County and other public health-care centers. Those studies have found that about half of the patients who tested positive had no risk factors that would have prompted doctors to give them HIV tests under the old guidelines.
"We thought that was striking," said Dr. Robert Weinstein, a professor of medicine at Rush University Medical Center, who led the studies. "It suggested that universal testing is imperative to control this epidemic, and bring health care to patients before they're critically ill."
Outlaws, as a group (through its e-boards and in consultation with its members), has developed a particular approach to J.A.G. responses over the years. Since this approach's philosophy is not always known to our members, nor is it universally adopted at our peer schools (though many expressed interest in exploring it further at our Peer School Meeting at Lavender Law), I've been asked (as Secretary, and thus also Historian of Outlaws) to write up the reasoning and philosophy behind our approach, so that it is not forgotten that we did not happen up this policy arbitrarily, and so that there is no mistaken idea that we do not revisit our reasoning each year during J.A.G. recruitment season.
The only hesitation I have with endorsing Outlaws' historical approach 100% is that I believe we fail to educate our peers effectively about this law. I sometimes think that some form of civil protest (restrained, to be sure) might raise the awareness further.
This is the only federal law that mandates discrimination -- and firing -- on the basis of sexual orientation. It is hateful, it is hurtful and it is expensive. Whatever we can do to further the objective of repealing this law is a step in the right direction. Personally, I agree that the more "gay-friendly" lawyers we have in JAG, the better. Hell, I think that the more gay lawyers we have in JAG the better. But, there are things that we can do -- and things that our allies can do -- right NOW to make a difference. Note the post I put up on the Outlaws blog a few weeks back: http://www.umoutlaws.org/2006/08/plug-calling-law-student-activists.html.
There is a serious underlying assumption here. Is it really true that those who are going in to JAG are open and loving toward the gays? I think assuming so may make us feel better but may not comport with reality.
Not that my 2 cents were asked for, but I have long thought that we are on one extreme of the do and don't do equation. Our tame response does not sit well with me nor would signing up for interviews.
Is there a middle ground approach?
In response to [the previous] question: Many of my friends from Michigan undergrad are serving in the military now. They are abundantly reasonable people, and they are our biggest supporters. They hate DADT and cannot wait for it to be changed, but it isn't their call. Similarly, I have a friend here at MichLaw who is considering JAG and is similarly-minded. If we want the military to change internally, we need to be very clear that we support allies who choose to serve in JAG.
Sorry to be "that alum" who pipes in, but the Daily Show just did a skit on DADT with a gay Arab linguist who had been discharged, basically making fun of how ridiculous it is. Perhaps not coincidentally, they aired it the same night Clinton was on promoting his foundation. If you do another info table this year, you might catch a few eyes if you have the skit playing on a TV. I wouldn't be suprised if the Show were willing to send you a tape.
I appreciate everyone's comments. I'm hesitant to bother the entire list with this, and I definitely do not intend to misconstrue anyone's arguments. I think the real problematic assumption is that the military is behind DADT. Personally, I think that if our political institutions - President, Congress, etc. - wanted an end to DADT, the military would grumble and then do it pretty fast. Increasingly, the military is not the basis of the opposition. The basis of the opposition is the Republican Party & their base, which has a great distaste for gay people.
I don't think there's any reason to focus our energies on the military at all - if we won over the public and then the congress & president, everything else would follow. We should still protest DADT, but I definitely see no reason to interview with the military or try to change the military. The focus needs to be changing our society, so the focus should be all our students. I honestly doubt that the handful of Michigan students who enter the military will have any greater impact on DADT than those that enter the regular workplace. The supremacy of the civilian, elected
leadership over the military is crucially important to our democracy, and so we should focus on changing the civilian leadership.
I would also argue that focusing on the military is counter-productive because it suggests that our problem is with the military. Many Americans revere the military, and they assume that University Leftists hate it. I don't see any reason to fall into that frame. Further, I revere the military. They serve their country for relatively low pay and risk their lives for all of us. Because of the leaders we as a nation elect, many of them die, others are tortured and imprisoned for years, and many more are permanently disfigured. People are innately defensive of the institution, particularly when the criticism is misplaced. Basically, everything wrong with the military right now - DADT, torture, indefinite detentions,
occupation of foreign nations - isn't wrong with the military. It's wrong with the President, the Congress, and the American people. The military is just doing the job that the American people want it to do. We may all be sad about that, but we should make sure we don't place our anger on the military as an institution. These crimes rest on all of us.
Now, this is just my viewpoint, and my empirical analysis could be completely wrong. But given these views, it should come as little surprise that I don't agree that an LGBT ally can only serve through JAG if they agitate for an end to DADT. (1) I don't think they have much power over DADT, particularly in comparison to their power over other things, and (2) I respect them for serving their country. It makes sense for Outlaws to focus on DADT, but DADT is not the only important issue that Michigan grads joining JAG may face. Early in 2003, JAGs expressed opposition to the
redefinition of torture in interrogations. JAGs play an important rule prosecuting and defending American military personnel, and they serve in numerous other ways. Americans need good lawyers with good values serving in those capacities. DADT is so hurtful and unfair because it denies us of that opportunity to serve, but I think we should remember how much all Americans benefit from having the best possible people serving in our armed forces.
None of this means we shouldn't protest, but I think there is a good argument against interviewing with recruiters to make a point. I really feel uncomfortable with people interviewing with recruiters if they wouldn't have interviewed if not for DADT (i.e. if you wouldn't actually want to be a JAG if DADT didn't exist, it's questionable to interview to make a point) (further, the lack of real desire might be completely apparent and thus confirm any prejudices we were hoping to defeat). I would much prefer we focused on pointing out how unjust this is to our entire class in a passionate but respectful way. Personally, I respect anyone who chooses to
serve their nation despite the imperfections of the institution in which they serve, as long as their contribution is a net good. To the degree they're doing wrong, it's mostly on the orders of the American public.
I don't think we need to be clear that we support allies who choose to serve in JAG ... unless, of course, outlaws as an organization formally takes that stance.
I don't think it is safe to assume that people are our "biggest supporters" when they choose this career path, unless and until they demonstrate agitation once within the military once they're in. i mean, seriously, if a law firm comes to OCI that has a policy that they don't hire South Asians, i would not think that my contemporaries interviewing at that law firm are anywhere near my "biggest supporters" no matter whay they say. their actions say otherwise. if, subsequent to that, they take a leadership role in forming an agenda to change the policy, then yeah -- they're a big supporter.
in terms of moving forward: i think that a committee should get together to really discuss what types of effective action can be taken in preparation for september 28th. it doesn't seem that there is consensus re: signing up for interviews as something the organization supports. so the question is: what does the organization support and why? how will we be effective in communicating our message and effecting change?
i think a good plan can be made in the 1 week that we have.
I have served in our military (4 years, during the Vietnam War). I have also worked for ServiceMembers' Legal Defense Network and understand the impact of DADT in a very real sense. I personally know gay JAG officers currently serving. (Does all this lend any credibility at all to my opinion?)
I am in (nearly) complete agreement with Robert's thoughts below. Personally, I do not revere the military as much as he does. Nevertheless in my opinion the problem is not, for the most part, with the military or its leadership in this case (some important exceptions aside). I believe that it WAS with the military at one time, in particular during the time that DADT was being formulated and then passed by Congress (during the Clinton administration). And I assure you that anti-gay sentiment is alive and well in the military. But, many significant military leaders (and former administrators) have come out in favor of overturning the ban and many commanding officers would rather not lose qualified soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines just because they're gay. No, the significant problem IS with the apathy (antipathy?) of the American public and the (predominantly Republican) Congress. Of course we know there is no leadership in the White House on this issue.
Changing the military isn't the answer (though again I say that it doesn't hurt to have queer friendly (or queer) lawyers in JAG). Changing our own apathy is.
Denise
Listen, I only read conservative Christian odd-ball publications for my gay news because I know that anytime we do something important, they'll be right there to predict the end of the world. Or, as is their new trend, to take credit for falling automobile sales.
We'd like to welcome and congratulate our newest e-board members:
Hello!
from our friends at CAPS:
Lesbian, Bisexual, and Questioning Women's Support Group
This supportive and therapeutic group is designed for women who love women, regardless of identities or labels. Lesbian, bisexual, queer, or questioning women are all welcome. We will work together to create a safe and confidential place to discuss identities, communities, coming out, self-esteem, relationships, sexuality, the "isms" and other topics of interest to group members. Pre-group interview required. Mondays, 4-5:30 pm, beginning Oct. 2nd. Facilitated by Vicki Hays, Ph.D. (vhays@umich.edu; 764-8312).
Victoria L. Hays, Ph.D.
Associate Director
Counseling and Psychological Services
University of Michigan
734.764.8312
Gay, Bisexual, Questioning Men's Discussion and Support Group
Tuesdays from 6:00 to 7:30 Facilitators, Mark Sampson, Ph.D. and Matthew Wadland, psychology Intern. This confidential group is for men (registered U of M students) who are oriented towards other men, regardless of identities or labels. Gay, bisexual, queer, or questioning men are welcome. It is designed as a safe place to discuss identity, community, coming out, self-esteem, relationships, homophobia/biphobia and other issues of relevance. If interested, please schedule a screening appointment with Mark and Matt. A commitment to regular attendance for the semester is required. Group begins September 26th.
Mark Sampson, Ph.D.
Psychologist
Counseling and Psychological Services
734-764-8312
marksamp@umich.edu
Come support the Out Loud Chorus at our Fundraising Brunch to be held
Often, the LGBT community is presented as a single community. The very acronym “LGBT” suggests as such. But is that the case? Is there one inclusive LGBT community, or are there separate and exclusive communities for lesbians, for gay men, for bisexual people, and for transgender people? How do identity politics factor in, and what about people who don’t identify with one of the letters of the acronym? Is there a place for them? What is it that connects us in the first place? Should we be united? Bring a lunch and join us for this discussion where we’ll address these important questions and more.
from our friends at the university proper...
OUT of Class: The reception for LesBiGayTransQueer graduate and professional students
Welcome (back) grad students! Take a minute to meet new and returning lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer graduate and professional students from Rackham, the Law School, Ross B-School, Med school, and UM's other schools, colleges, and grad programs.
Mix, mingle, and make plans for later! Light food and refreshments will be served.
Date: Friday, September 22nd
Time: 4:30 p.m. - 6:30 p.m.
Where: Rackham Graduate School, Assembly Hall, 4th Floor
*for more information, contact Gabe Javier - javiergc@umich.edu
Sponsored in partnership with:
Rackham Graduate School
Office of Student Services
Office of LGBT Affairs
Division of Student Affairs, University of Michigan
Creating Community Grants
Student Activities and Leadership
Division of Student Affairs, University of Michigan
Hi, Outlaws 3Ls:
The first Outlaws mtg. is TOMORROW,
Our previously scheduled meeting for today at 5:30 has been CANCELED due to scheduling conflicts.
"The Advocate College Guide for LGBT Students" (Alyson Books) profiles 100 of the country's "best campuses" for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students, and it arrives at a time when gay students are more vocal and visible.
"It's looking more like half or most gay and lesbian Americans are coming out before they get to college," said Bruce Steele, the guide's editor in chief. "Unlike in the past, the experience they will have on a campus is something they can think about before they go to college."
from this nytimes article
Outlaws will have it's first meeting on Thursday, Sept. 14th @ 5:30 pm in 218 HH.
Here's a list of upcoming events y'all might want to check out (esp. Gayz Craze and the Open House).